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Serious Is Most Inkwell Discourse a Waste of Time?

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I don't like to discuss a lot of incel related stuff on here, and actively discourage it as this isn't the forum for it, and one of the reasons it bores me especially is isn't it a massive waste of time altogether? Maybe I sound unsympathetic as I'm not an incel myself but it's one of the those subject matters that literally go nowhere and end in a women bashing fest that ultimately becomes unproductive and toxic all in all. Yes, modern dating does sucks and many men out there are struggling to get a date let alone a partner, but so what? With the world of modern technology where women can find a date with the ease of their smartphones and no longer require a man to survive in the real world inceldom is just an unfortunate outcome for a lot of guys and pulling up Tinder statistics and bias women show in dating market isn't going to turn back the clock and restore the dynamics to what they were 50 years ago. Do I think the rise in dating inequality will cause societial issues down the road? Yeah absolutely, a generation of lonely and sexually frustrated men does no society good, but it's one of those subjects where everything in regards to it has been discussed and unless there is some kind of massive societal upheaveal there is not much actual incels can do to change their position, and I just don't know how productive or healthy it is for some of these people to want to constantly talk about it and even warp their whole online identity to it. Put that energy into something else y'know? I do pity these men and how much their situation sucks, yet the whole discussion seems like to be shouting at wall at this point as society just don't care about their plight, and the sooner you realise no one is gonna save you from your hole the better you'll feel imo.

Am I wrong? Tell me what you think below.
 

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they're just guys venting their frustration.
also nice message count.
 

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I don't like to discuss a lot of incel related stuff on here, and actively discourage it as this isn't the forum for it, and one of the reasons it bores me especially is isn't it a massive waste of time altogether? Maybe I sound unsympathetic as I'm not an incel myself but it's one of the those subject matters that literally go nowhere and end in a women bashing fest that ultimately becomes unproductive and toxic all in all. Yes, modern dating does sucks and many men out there are struggling to get a date let alone a partner, but so what? With the world of modern technology where women can find a date with the ease of their smartphones and no longer require a man to survive in the real world inceldom is just an unfortunate outcome for a lot of guys and pulling up Tinder statistics and bias women show in dating market isn't going to turn back the clock and restore the dynamics to what they were 50 years ago. Do I think the rise in dating inequality will cause societial issues down the road? Yeah absolutely, a generation of lonely and sexually frustrated men does no society good, but it's one of those subjects where everything in regards to it has been discussed and unless there is some kind of massive societal upheaveal there is not much actual incels can do to change their position, and I just don't know how productive or healthy it is for some of these people to want to constantly talk about it and even warp their whole online identity to it. Put that energy into something else y'know? I do pity these men and how much their situation sucks, yet the whole discussion seems like to be shouting at wall at this point as society just don't care about their plight, and the sooner you realise no one is gonna save you from your hole the better you'll feel imo.

Am I wrong? Tell me what you think below.
youre venting a bit but its understandable. many men just think "oh the world is so shit, horrible things are occurring, and nothing is seemingly stopping that" and all that shit and decide to blackpill themselves into oblivion.

my take on incels is 50/50. i pity them for the situation the world has put us in, and on the other hand i find them weak. "oh noes, le world is le shit, better become a blackpilling loser and become a horrible human being instead of trying to improve my myself and my surroundings for the better >:(((((". a modern day "boy who cried wolf" situation

my experiences with incels is varied, but a decent chunk of them become blackpilling faggots who cant be bothered to move on from their own self made pit of despair and want to wallow in it, dragging anyone around them down to their level.
 

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If someone is actively improving himself, I don't think he deserves to be called an incel
On Polish web we have a phrase that I thing better fits what OP is trying to say. It's #loser

#loser is someone who's only looking at other's results and dismisses all the work put in to get there. He (or she, but let's be real) thinks that he's entitled to good life just because he exists. This attitude applies to fitness, worklife and of course dating. Those people are locked in their mindset and no matter how hard you try, they won't change, because "chad/classmate bully/e celeb got their gf without trying / were born fit / have comfy work cause parents"


Enough with the circle jerking here
 

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it's one of the those subject matters that literally go nowhere and end in a women bashing fest that ultimately becomes unproductive and toxic all in all.
incel discord is shit exclusively because of this ,otherwise most of the BP would be truth , but some people are too fucking bitter to realize the reality of the situation and often go on tangents or otherwise unproductive rants.
Yes, modern dating does sucks and many men out there are struggling to get a date let alone a partner, but so what?
male horniness and societal expectations pretty much answers that question , if you don't get a girlfriend by the time you're 20 you are immediately assumed to be gay or a loser (you are both). Also since women have much easier time in social hierarchy , it is much easier to form social groups and circles when women are present . With the inability to establish these connections your life becomes much more shit for fairly obvious reasons
Do I think the rise in dating inequality will cause societial issues down the road?
This is the one point I disagree on , I think men will find superficial ways of coping their loneliness (religion , hobbies , pornography) only furthering the disconnect between men and women. Also traditional dating advice will most likely stay popular as it coddles people into thinking they still have a chance regardless of their age or genetics , though with prevalence of looksmaxxing (or the act of maximizing ones attractiveness) pushed on young people, and incels not reproducing, I definitely do think inceldom will become less of a thing and will eventually fix itself via natural selection.
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This is the one point I disagree on , I think men will find superficial ways of coping their loneliness (religion , hobbies , pornography) only furthering the disconnect between men and women. Also traditional dating advice will most likely stay popular as it coddles people into thinking they still have a chance regardless of their age or genetics , though with prevalence of looksmaxxing (or the act of maximizing ones attractiveness) pushed on young people, and incels not reproducing, I definitely do think inceldom will become less of a thing and will eventually fix itself via natural selection.
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I dunno man, a generation of men hitting 40 and realising this is it, no wife, kids or house, isn't gonna be pretty. The hopeful conclusion is that it does automatically adjust it itself but I do not see that occuring with male mental illness skyrocketing and less and less men being able to access the dating market, incel attacks I sadly see becoming more common and should be prepared to see more of them in years to come.

Whatifalthist actually did a brilliant video on this subject and I'd advise you check it out as it does knock it on the head on what I feel is gonna happen unfortunately in time to come. Please bear with the beginning of the video however as Whatif is a sperg and has to affirm to his viewers he *does* get pussy before the main feature starts, it made me physically cringe first time watching but please trust me on this video:
 

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I really don't like 4chan's blackpilled incel culture. It sucks that all internet forums have diluted to where you're basically stuck between actual reddit(hell) and blackpilled 30 year old virgin site 4chan(also hell). I feel like there used to be a lot more genuine people online who acted normal.
 

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I really don't like 4chan's blackpilled incel culture. It sucks that all internet forums have diluted to where you're basically stuck between actual reddit(hell) and blackpilled 30 year old virgin site 4chan(also hell). I feel like there used to be a lot more genuine people online who acted normal.
Yeah exactly I hate it too hence why I've limited those discussions on here in the exception to this one as I thought if was an interesting matter to discuss.
 

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I don't like to discuss a lot of incel related stuff on here, and actively discourage it as this isn't the forum for it, and one of the reasons it bores me especially is isn't it a massive waste of time altogether? Maybe I sound unsympathetic as I'm not an incel myself but it's one of the those subject matters that literally go nowhere and end in a women bashing fest that ultimately becomes unproductive and toxic all in all. Yes, modern dating does sucks and many men out there are struggling to get a date let alone a partner, but so what? With the world of modern technology where women can find a date with the ease of their smartphones and no longer require a man to survive in the real world inceldom is just an unfortunate outcome for a lot of guys and pulling up Tinder statistics and bias women show in dating market isn't going to turn back the clock and restore the dynamics to what they were 50 years ago. Do I think the rise in dating inequality will cause societial issues down the road? Yeah absolutely, a generation of lonely and sexually frustrated men does no society good, but it's one of those subjects where everything in regards to it has been discussed and unless there is some kind of massive societal upheaveal there is not much actual incels can do to change their position, and I just don't know how productive or healthy it is for some of these people to want to constantly talk about it and even warp their whole online identity to it. Put that energy into something else y'know? I do pity these men and how much their situation sucks, yet the whole discussion seems like to be shouting at wall at this point as society just don't care about their plight, and the sooner you realise no one is gonna save you from your hole the better you'll feel imo.

Am I wrong? Tell me what you think below.
Sincerely, the matter at hand is that there is a number of men who upon trying to obtain a relationship simply cannot find one due to the other party not reciprocating or wanting to date them. Thus, when in a state of strife do we not look towards truth as our guiding lamp? The problem of the matter is something is occurring within society that is causing women to act in a certain way which pushes men away and or leave said men without any opportunity or even given a chance. Rather the state of society is actively pushing an agenda, what is that agenda? That gender as we understand it is incorrect, is fluid and relative, look closely to the attitudes of today, individuals are going by different pronouns, if you look at certain social services under the pronoun category you choose 'queer', 'homosexual', 'bi-sexual, these concepts do not exist naturally to the human being, but justification will be made that they are.

In my opinion the blackpill has merit, its result is a materialistic conclusion which sets aside eugenics and human engineering as possible reasons for the current state.

 

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Blackpill discourse became stale years ago, everything that’s worth saying has been said already. It’s like saying that water is wet and the sky is blue but incessantly repeating it like a broken alarm clock.
 

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eh, most guys are incel-ed because women have been completely decimated by the sexual revolution and the mainstreaming of porn and promiscuity. women have no idea what they even are, so men are completely lost on how to pursue them, interact with them, fuck them, etc.
 

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Most guys are inkwells because they don't get laid, it is all very obvious to me, dunno what the question is. Maybe if some men don't get enough love, affection and sex, things just keep on becoming worse and worse mentally for them. I don't know how to have a unbias opinion because sometimes I feel and look like a guy like that, but I'm trying to better myself!
 
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