I do agree with you for the most part, a lot of this is NATO desiring a border with Russia to intimidate them and Russia obviously being like "fuck no" to that shit. Russia are no angels here mind you and both sides are shit, Russia has been funneling in people from Asia to replace those who have left the cities in Ukraine, and frankly I feel it may soon be the case that Ukraine will be become a nation that is not only culturally replaced but ethnically replaced also, the fact they have doing this so quickly too should be concerning to anyone if a war ever happens in their nation as its not hard for the powers that be to do something like this, even during a war.
What was Ukraine isn't coming back as a whole generation or two of young Ukrainian men have been gunned down, and their women mostly have fled to neighbouring nations, all over a NATO border dispute. If it wasn't obvious what's going on makes me sick and I don't think people realise how bad the casualties on the Ukrainian side have been, I've posted this video on another thread but it belongs here also as its honestly heartbreaking, a death of a nation and so quickly at that; our world is ran by truly evil people...
People die in war. More civilians die in war than military minus WW1 because of no mans land. This is the nature of war.
Real question is, what are the Ukraine fighting for?
I already explained Russias real reason...Ukraine "real" reason is to keep the eastern regions. Regions that don't even want to be in Ukraine and are in favour of Russia.
The irony of all of this is it is all because of 1 person, their "leader" who wouldn't even just succeed or surrender against an overwhelming force and stop trying to join NATO as well as most likely American influence instigating the 2014 revolution.
Remember USSR/Russia gave Ukraine its independence, and then they overthrow the eastern bloc favoured government (most likely because of USA NATO led subterfuge) put a *** in power, a *** who is just a clown comedian spreading anti-government propaganda in the media in order to get elected, who knows fuck all about war, who conscripts the populace who of course will die at the behest of a trained military, and for what.
From Russias diplomatic side they have said all they want is to free the eastern regions and remove the shitty regime. So why did that 1 leader not do all in his power to stop war and kill the populace. WHy not just call their bluff, succeed the regions and be at peace saving the countless deaths that would surely come from warfare?
I feel sorry for the Ukrainian men sure, I don't enjoy innocent people being wiped off the face of the earth but in reality this is a genuine case of you reap what you sow.
If we elect clowns as our leaders who only care about their in group preference, when the wolves come knocking at the door, its not them that get eaten, its the populace being used by the clown and to stupid to not throw the wolves under the bus and instead die for them.
If the elected leader of this country said we are going to war with our neighbours because we (I) want to join a millitary pact with them, I would say fuck off, lets not go to war and dont join the military pact.
What retarded "leader" wants to join alliance pacts with people who were their enemies anyway.
Then on a related note, I have seen quite a few videos of Ukrianians killing russians with drones. Single people, not military targets using drones as on offensive but simply murdering single soldiers for the fun of it.
Any "civilised" military does not relish in killing the enemy and only does so to take strategic targets, which of themselves are a means to an end, the end being end of the war.
Ukraine are not doing this, they are murdering useless targets for fun, yet media propaganda had people laud them as heroes.
I am not a retard I don't take sides in a war that has nothing to do with me but I do see my own and other countries spread propaganda, refuse us (the populace) to see the other sides point of view (banning Russian media), despite my country having no sort of alliance or grief with one or the other countries in that war. See my country giving military aid to one side, despite the money can be better used on our own populace. My country being a NATO country obviously.
Then to add to the propaganda as how propaganda has been modified now to be (un)organically spread via retards on social media. I see people take sides in the war and do stuff like send videos and shitpost laughing about the above random soldiers just being plain murdered.
Of course idiots like that are strangers to war and do not know how the art of war is "meant" to be, but this is more than that. They are relishing in murder of non strategic targets being killed like they are supporting their favourite sports team on TV.
Its a clown world. Just damn crazy.
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